Tracy Walder worked for the CIA and FBI. The author of the book, “The Unexpected Spy,” which is being explored as a potential series for Netflix, also provides expert analysis on America’s intelligence community for news shows. She’s a college professor as well. She talks to Mac about the differences between the CIA and FBI, how these agencies are now so politicized, and what is the next threat to the United States. Her answer is quite scary. Also, Mac shares a story about trying to hit the standard of, “Would you say it to that person’s face?”
